The Walther Q5 Match SF is built on the PPQ platform with the addition of a steel frame. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} A metal striker gun aimed at competitors. I've had several. It's like an oz lighter than a Shadow 2 which makes it 2 oz heavier than the PPQ SF (basically they all weigh about the same) which soaks up recoil, has a better out of the box trigger by a large and noticeable margin, with amazing sights, is ready to mount a red dot, and is cheaper than either the PPQ SF or Shadow 2 by a lot. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} Description. Ill probably cross post this to the NJ/USPSA sub, but having lurked here for some time, there are some diverse opinions of interest. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. As everyone else has said you need to feel both. I prefer CZ's, but everyone's different. So does Springer Precision and the Henning Group. Q5 SF trigger is amazing. CZ. 18 shot(s) Grip. It took two months to get the part. How do the guns fit in your hand, knowing one has many aftermarket grip choices and one has none? As a US resident (NJ) Im looking to get back into some form of handgun action sport (not sure how serious just yet). I have no idea. 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Display as a link instead, 9 mm x 19. It will also make you have to fire your first shot double action. However the CZ hasbeen on the market for some time. Q5 is accurate to 200 yds its a snipers pistol. We'll send you an email when new handguns are added. Though, the CZ isn't ddifficul. You must log in or register to reply here. Related Walther Q5 Match Steel Frame - The Best Competition Option? Mine has all kinds of grit through it. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} I love walther ergonomics and the ppq is my favorite handgun to shoot in my collection. Ill probably get back to reloading. I'm not changing. I dry fired one last weekend that had been tweaked. You can't go wrong with either! 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I called Walther for a replacement striker assembly and they didn't even have any in the country. Walther PPQ M2 Q5 Match SF Pro 9mm Pistol, Black - 2846951 . We need to know what division in which you want to compete. So no da pull to ever deal with. - Walther Q5 SF Black Ribbon. If you ever want to do CO, the Q5 is ready to go. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. amazing!! These are hand-finished, hand-fitted guns, and some also are hand-engraved. Just have to live with a DA first pull as noted. Which grip would I rather have? Paste as plain text instead, I like the Shadow 2 the best out of the two. it is but when you look at the cost of my SVI or Cheely pistols it is a drop in the bucket. hahahaha. As mentioned, the CZ shadow 2 is the best bang for the buck. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} They really missed the a chance to make that gun perfect! How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? 2,2 MB Q5_Match_SF_283 . The only downside to the Walther, IMO, is the magwell and the sights. Upload or insert images from URL. Striker-Fired Competition Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, DA/SA Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger. Now I'm left handed and I feel walther is better for left handed people. Your link has been automatically embedded. Although it is not optic ready. Will smoke anything listed and be the most reliable. If youre new to competition shooting, run with what you have. Cowden, Illinois. I WANT to like the Walther. walther q5 match sf vs cz shadow 2. Both guns can have the slides milled for a dot if you wanted to go that route. (South/CentralNOT Chicago!! Steel Frame Full-Length Picatinny Dust Cover, Beaver Tail and wrap around textured aluminum grips. Machined from solid billet steel, the Walther Q5 Match Steel Frame Pro Semi-Auto Pistol is a feature-rich, match-grade pistol. The shadow 2 is proven to be a great gun. Available In 4 Colors: Black, OD Green, Coyote Brown, Gunmetal Gray. Longs Shadown Huron Competition Holster - OWB (Q5 SF) The Huron holster was designed with the goal of creating the best Competition holster with direct input from professional shooters. Clear editor. People will be more than willing to let you try their guns. The gun is a fantastic shooter but IMO doesn't feel anywhere as natural in the hand as my S2. Very happy with my decision. First post. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} That said, there are less expensive options that spend a lot of time in the winner's circle. However, other people really love the Walther ergos and I think this Q5 will be an epic winner with those folks. The extra money/time spent to get the CZ running isn't worth it, IMO. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? There is more known about the cz and it run than the sf. For both they are accurate guns. Press J to jump to the feed. DA out of the box is smooth but too heavy for a competition gun. For both they are accurate guns. Not sure why everyone wants skinny grips but I have big hands and that crap is awkward. After tremendous trial, design, and review we released this model to give its user every advantage. CZ P10F: I liked it more than my XDm 4.5 but was not different enough to justify buying. Including an accushadow. The "Black Diamond" special edition takes the look and performance of the indomitable Q5 Steel Frame to a purposeful new dimension. Been shooting the X5 legion and really liking it. By There are aftermarket parts available to spiffy it up if that's your thing. Walther Q5 Match How Does it Compare to the SF? CZ is now importing an optics ready model now as well, which is allowed for USPSA carry optics division. The only downside to the Walther, IMO, is the magwell and the sights. Luckily I had dealt with this in the off season but if it was in the middle of the shooting season it would have been a different story. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. For more information, please see our CZ Shadow 2 vs Walther Q5 Match Steel Frame - If I Could Only Have One. nikki sixx net worth 2021. walther q5 match sf vs cz shadow 2st michael's school toronto scandal. The short story was I had spares and a complete rig for the CZ. The Q5 had better ergos and a better trigger. The barrel, slide, steel-frame, and even magazine base plate of the "Black . microham The PHLster Classic. Beretta 92X Performance (not on the roster yet) 4. I personally prefer the X5 with a More RTS2, I have a Springfield XDM Competition. Divisions of interest are in order are Carry Optics, Production and maybe limited. Uploaded by downrangevideos on March 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm. The X5 had much better build quality IMO. They are both excellent guns right out of the box. Rating: 100%. The beaver tail does bruise my thumb knuckle a bit if I shoot it a lot in one range session, but not to the point it hurts and I definitely don't notice it when I'm actually shooting. The CZ Shadow 2 falls right in line at your top end and is quite popular among the production division. Trigger standard? .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} For USPSA (CO and production)/steel/pistol only matches, I shoot CZ and would recommend that all day. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? Im kind of set on 9mm low recoil (as opposed to 40 cal for Major). Thats a lot of coin for a production pistol! If you want an amazing trigger, sights, fit and finish and a steel frame and want to shoot USPSA Production get a CZ Shadow 2 (Which is cheaper than the PPQ SF), or Shadow 2 orange. Theyre both great guns. Walther Arms Meister Manufaktur Ppq Q5 Match Sf Cz Shadow 2 9Mm Semi-Automatic Pistol 91245. ), OZ9 Elite Competition, Black Slide Bronze Barrel, https://aliengearholsters.com/blog/double-stack-1911/, Brand new Walther PPQ TAC like new Walther PDP. However, Im likely to get a few guns dedicated to different divisions and so am happy to get something that will start me off in a good enough position. What is eventually better on A S2? Initially not thinking Open. I like the Glock ergonomics. A CZ will get be able to get a much better trigger since it's a hammer and sear based gun. Add to Cart. Vp9 OR. CZ. That said I still don't like the feel. Both have shorter grips but the Q5SF had a larger circumference. Be sure to leave. Also: Both pistols were intended for practical pistol competitions (USPSA/IPSC stuff) so I am operating under the assumption that is the "competition" you intended. I can't really give the edge to one or the other. In my mind, there's no perfect gun. It just matter of preference, nobody can tell you what you'll like better. The only real difference between the two is that . I'd bet you an Open gun you can not shoot the same gun all year. Very good detailed break down. Im thinking Steels etc would be fine to get back into action shooting with CO. (Do you guys shooting bowling pins in the US?). I ran a custom 1911 in the Open division and competed until handguns were banned in 1997. you can do it pick one you like and run forest run , stop shoot then run forest run . That said I started with a CZ SP01. FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. Share Watch on 0:00 / 22:42 Uploaded by downrangevideos on March 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm Like Share Share this: Tweet Post Print Like this: Loading. Equally, Steel, Police Pistol or any other action derivative Id be open too. The only thing different with the SF is the frame is made of steel and while that's obvious and in the name the only benefit to it is added weight which can be achieved with the standard Q5 in other ways (though those ways aren't usually legal for IDPA/USPSA if that matters to you; and if that matters to you keep reading) if it doesn't matter to you buy plastic PPQ and attach a barrel weight to it. I think thats worth a lot when shooting comps being able to wrench on a firearm quickly. For no good reason, change my mind on this? A buddy and I tested both a few weeks ago. If you want the best USPSA Carry Optics ready gun currently on the market get the Sig P320 X5 Legion. Tnx mate. The Walther seems to group the same no matter the ammo. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} But to me, the da trigger pull is a non issue due to how you can start in ESP. personally i don't like the da/sa guns, just weird with the different trigger pulls. And here I am rolling up with a Beretta PX4 Storm with a competition trigger group/trigger and some aftermarket sights such a loser. But yes I do change often. The Q5 SF had nice heft but felt lighter than my CZ (I'm also running brass grips). Isn't the accu shadow legal only in ESP? Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. They're different. If your X5 is not in the same league as CZ's and just about all 1911's then you have an issue with it. WaltherPPQ Q5 Match M2 Striker-Fired Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price CZ Shadow 2 For Sale Cz-Usa Cz Shadow 2 Sa 9Mm Pistol, Blk. Both are plenty fast, but I get it as I prefer dropping it with my shooting thumb as well. Shot. 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Personal preference will all be down to do you want to manipulate and external safety off the draw? I really comes down to user preference. The name says it all. The Walther seems to group the same no matter the ammo. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I had to choose one for production, it'd be the Shadow. B-RAD you're changing guns just as fast as me Love myShadows but expecting a Q5 SF coming in FSindeed bit big compared to S2 B-RAD you're changing guns just as fast as me. Walter might get therebut it may wellbe a long, hard row to hoe. Walther PPQ Q5 Match M1 9mm Pistol, Black - 2846977 . HK VP9 is now optics ready out of the box. I shot a Glock 34 in production for years with no issues either.
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